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Post 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
Initial 64-man draft and build:

Event #: 889249
Time: 1/24/2010 2:02:12 PM
Players:
PedroMartinez
NiNjA_pIrA13
rjrietze
MrNinja
Mojo
A_Webb
SARCASTO
Avrom
JedLen
Shazam187
Asgardian
theeguy
Dipterans
RVerdant
Jeremy Klein
Nomi
DarkestMage
Dracc0n
tomy_vercety
Brannart1082
footuh
DaedalianIngenuity
Just4myrage
Niicfromlozane
Triukas
Tolstbly
EthanHorn
Grekhov
Griffim3
TheKithking
La_Keka
SunsetDramaKing
Gosu.
QuaCk QuaCk
High__
kakiyo
Shelby GT
raf.azevedo
Mythic_Common
Farmor
manuBfanclub
Sick_Variance
mr.Dragon
Arcology
prolepsis9
kabanov_sur
Zyrix
Angel_of_Death_22
tes4444
Pugna
Strumfemi
mattb
adonseth
marcelo bacana
fishmaster
CottonMcKnight
_Joseph_
bolov0
MJMReaper
Drago
kaOz.Zeh
HSBen
jono416
KHANanaphone

------ CON ------

Pack 1 pick 1:
Cerodon Yearling
Tidehollow Strix
Druid of the Anima
Steward of Valeron
Guardians of Akrasa
Etherium Sculptor
Darklit Gargoyle
Pestilent Kathari
Valley Rannet
Pale Recluse
Messenger Falcons
Grixis Battlemage
Gluttonous Slime
--> Cliffrunner Behemoth
Mountain

this guy is pretty good

Pack 1 pick 2:
Sighted-Caste Sorcerer
Arsenal Thresher
Volcanic Submersion
Relic of Progenitus
Bone Splinters
Grixis Illusionist
Rhox Meditant
--> Zombie Outlander
Angelsong (FOIL)
Veinfire Borderpost
Corpse Connoisseur
Knotvine Mystic
Swerve
Mountain

super unexciting pack, considered the connoisseur and the meditant but just opted for a solid dude and kept my options open

Pack 1 pick 3:
Kathari Screecher
Goblin Mountaineer
--> Crystallization
Welkin Guide
Call to Heel
Drag Down
Vectis Agents
Putrid Leech
Dragon Appeasement
Filigree Sages
Manaforce Mace
Godsire
Plains

over drag down, crystallization is the better card imo

Pack 1 pick 4:
Marble Chalice
Cerodon Yearling
Druid of the Anima
--> Steward of Valeron
Guardians of Akrasa
Darklit Gargoyle
Pestilent Kathari
Violent Outburst
Corrupted Roots
Reborn Hope
Identity Crisis
Island

over guardians

Pack 1 pick 5:
Coma Veil
Dragon Fodder
--> Grixis Panorama
Savage Hunger
Glaze Fiend
Goblin Outlander
Maniacal Rage
Brackwater Elemental
Dreadwing
Cumber Stone
Forest

nothing excites me here so i take the fixing

Pack 1 pick 6:
Goblin Deathraiders
Obelisk of Jund
Etherium Abomination
Blister Beetle
Soul's Grace
Asha's Favor
Scattershot Archer
Vectis Dominator
--> Seaside Citadel
Swamp

????

Pack 1 pick 7:
Rip-Clan Crasher
Onyx Goblet
Marble Chalice
--> Nacatl Outlander
Demonspine Whip (FOIL)
Suicidal Charge
Vectis Dominator
Predatory Advantage
Swamp

nice

Pack 1 pick 8:
Soul's Might
Lightning Talons
Yoke of the Damned
Tukatongue Thallid
Magefire Wings
Sunseed Nurturer
--> Hellspark Elemental
Island

sure, seems very late, looking naya-ish

Pack 1 pick 9:
Cerodon Yearling
Guardians of Akrasa
Etherium Sculptor
Pestilent Kathari
--> Pale Recluse
Gluttonous Slime
Mountain

good body and fixing

Pack 1 pick 10:
Volcanic Submersion
Relic of Progenitus
Grixis Illusionist
--> Angelsong (FOIL)
Swerve
Mountain

Pack 1 pick 11:
--> Goblin Mountaineer
Call to Heel
Dragon Appeasement
Filigree Sages
Plains

Pack 1 pick 12:
Marble Chalice
Corrupted Roots
--> Reborn Hope
Island

Pack 1 pick 13:
Savage Hunger
--> Glaze Fiend
Forest

Pack 1 pick 14:
Soul's Grace
--> Swamp

Pack 1 pick 15:
--> Swamp

------ ALA ------

Pack 2 pick 1:
Shore Snapper
Architects of Will
Hindering Light
Ethercaste Knight
--> Wild Nacatl
Outrider of Jhess
Worldly Counsel
Aven Squire
Armillary Sphere
Infest (FOIL)
Sacellum Archers
Anathemancer
Grixis Charm
Soulquake
Forest

close between this and the armillary sphere, i'd rather have a good naya aggro dude though

Pack 2 pick 2:
Coma Veil
Grixis Panorama
Savage Hunger
Sanctum Gargoyle
Glaze Fiend
Brackwater Elemental
Aven Squire
--> Naya Hushblade
Gift of the Gargantuan (FOIL)
Esperzoa
Sanity Gnawers
Thoughtcutter Agent
Fight to the Death
Forest

you can make an argument for gargoyle even though i have no artifacts

Pack 2 pick 3:
Shore Snapper
Architects of Will
Hindering Light
Ethercaste Knight
--> Armillary Sphere
Pestilent Kathari
Might of Alara
Jund Hackblade
Talon Trooper
Nulltread Gargantuan
Countersquall
Ad Nauseam
Mountain

ok i'll take this one (over the hackblade)

Pack 2 pick 4:
--> Court Archers
Rip-Clan Crasher
Courier's Capsule
Onyx Goblet
Nacatl Outlander
Quenchable Fire
Suicidal Charge
Vedalken Ghoul
Messenger Falcons
Grixis Battlemage
Aven Mimeomancer
Mountain

over the outlander, i love this card because he does so much for me. increases offensive power, stalls, etc

Pack 2 pick 5:
Obelisk of Grixis
Jhessian Lookout
Dregscape Zombie
Gustrider Exuberant
--> Jungle Weaver
Kranioceros
Traumatic Visions
Igneous Pouncer
Thunder-Thrash Elder
Inkwell Leviathan
Island

over the kranioceros

Pack 2 pick 6:
Shadowfeed
Esper Sojourners
Excommunicate
--> Might of Alara
Offering to Asha
Gorger Wurm
Rockslide Elemental
Countersquall
Sigil Captain
Plains

unsure on this pick, maybe should have been gorger wurm. was trying to keep the red to a splash as much as possible and i don't really have much in the ways of removal-type spells at this point.

Pack 2 pick 7:
Cathartic Adept
Obelisk of Esper
Forest (FOIL)
--> Esper Panorama
Unsummon
Court Homunculus
Behemoth's Herald
Kiss of the Amesha
Plains

more possible fixing for some sort of future splash

Pack 2 pick 8:
Brainbite
--> Naturalize
Frontline Sage
Court Homunculus
Salvage Slasher
Vectis Dominator
Unbender Tine
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 9:
Shore Snapper
--> Architects of Will
Hindering Light
Outrider of Jhess
Worldly Counsel
Soulquake
Forest

nothing for me, hating out the most playable card

Pack 2 pick 10:
Coma Veil
Savage Hunger
--> Glaze Fiend
Brackwater Elemental
Thoughtcutter Agent
Forest

see above

Pack 2 pick 11:
Hindering Light
Nulltread Gargantuan
Countersquall
--> Ad Nauseam
Mountain

raredraft, could have taken and splashed the gargantuan

Pack 2 pick 12:
Onyx Goblet
Vedalken Ghoul
--> Grixis Battlemage
Mountain

wow, late

Pack 2 pick 13:
Jhessian Lookout
--> Gustrider Exuberant
Island

Pack 2 pick 14:
Shadowfeed
--> Plains

Pack 2 pick 15:
--> Plains

------ ALA ------

Pack 3 pick 1:
Jhessian Lookout
Dregscape Zombie
Gustrider Exuberant
Firewild Borderpost
Jungle Weaver
Welkin Guide (FOIL)
Sylvan Bounty
Fiery Fall
Sanctum Plowbeast
Rhox Brute
Intimidation Bolt
Dawnray Archer
Blood Cultist
--> Sigil of Distinction
Forest

ding ding ding ding ding

Pack 3 pick 2:
Goblin Mountaineer
Call to Heel (FOIL)
Welkin Guide
Call to Heel
Quenchable Fire
Exploding Borders
Aven Trailblazer
Leonin Armorguard
Stormcaller's Boon
Tainted Sigil
Bant Battlemage
--> Naya Charm
Wargate
Plains

SO GOOD

Pack 3 pick 3:
Bant Panorama
--> Rakeclaw Gargantuan
Undead Leotau
Gift of the Gargantuan
Angelsong
Spell Snip
Trace of Abundance (FOIL)
Offering to Asha
Grixis Grimblade
Scornful Æther-Lich
Shield of the Righteous
Sprouting Thrinax
Forest

things are looking up

Pack 3 pick 4:
--> Naya Panorama
Punish Ignorance (FOIL)
Dreg Reaver
Incurable Ogre
Yoke of the Damned
Matca Rioters
Canyon Minotaur
Pale Recluse
Jund Sojourners
Gluttonous Slime
Sunseed Nurturer
Plains

yay fixing, over the matca rioters

Pack 3 pick 5:
Blightning
Obelisk of Naya
Thorn-Thrash Viashino
Mosstodon
Exploding Borders
Wandering Goblins
Nacatl Outlander
--> Naya Sojourners
Igneous Pouncer
Sangrite Surge
Forest

additional beats/combat trick/deck thinner, over mosstodon

Pack 3 pick 6:
Banewasp Affliction
Steelclad Serpent
Vectis Silencers
Resounding Scream
Yoke of the Damned
Tukatongue Thallid
Soul Manipulation
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
--> Mark of Asylum
Mountain

raredraft over the very unexciting thallid

Pack 3 pick 7:
Cavern Thoctar
--> Ridge Rannet
Obelisk of Grixis
Kaleidostone
Infectious Horror
Thunder-Thrash Elder
Shambling Remains
Memory Erosion
Island

cycler over the thoctar

Pack 3 pick 8:
--> Rip-Clan Crasher
Onyx Goblet
Scattershot Archer
Wandering Goblins
Zealous Persecution
Demon's Herald
Unstable Frontier
Mountain

nice

Pack 3 pick 9:
Jhessian Lookout
Dregscape Zombie
Gustrider Exuberant
Jungle Weaver
Welkin Guide (FOIL)
--> Sylvan Bounty
Forest

over a second weaver, this deck is going to be fast and pretty consistent

Pack 3 pick 10:
--> Goblin Mountaineer
Call to Heel (FOIL)
Call to Heel
Stormcaller's Boon
Tainted Sigil
Plains

Pack 3 pick 11:
Angelsong
--> Trace of Abundance (FOIL)
Offering to Asha
Shield of the Righteous
Forest

Pack 3 pick 12:
Dreg Reaver
--> Incurable Ogre
Sunseed Nurturer
Plains

nice late pickup, i'll probably play him

Pack 3 pick 13:
--> Thorn-Thrash Viashino
Wandering Goblins
Forest

Pack 3 pick 14:
--> Banewasp Affliction
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 15:
--> Island


build (sorry about the color sort vs cost sort, i had way too many piles to get a good cost-sort screenshot on my laptop):

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Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:43 pm
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Post Re: 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
so i went 3-0 in the first three rounds. here's the top 8 draft:

Event #: 889249
Time: 1/24/2010 4:48:18 PM
Players:
PedroMartinez
NiNjA_pIrA13
rjrietze
MrNinja
Mojo
A_Webb
SARCASTO
Avrom
JedLen
Shazam187
Asgardian
theeguy
Dipterans
RVerdant
Jeremy Klein
Nomi
DarkestMage
Dracc0n
tomy_vercety
Brannart1082
footuh
DaedalianIngenuity
Just4myrage
Niicfromlozane
Triukas
Tolstbly
EthanHorn
Grekhov
Griffim3
TheKithking
La_Keka
SunsetDramaKing
Gosu.
QuaCk QuaCk
High__
kakiyo
Shelby GT
raf.azevedo
Mythic_Common
Farmor
manuBfanclub
Sick_Variance
mr.Dragon
Arcology
prolepsis9
kabanov_sur
Zyrix
Angel_of_Death_22
tes4444
Pugna
Strumfemi
mattb
adonseth
marcelo bacana
fishmaster
CottonMcKnight
_Joseph_
bolov0
MJMReaper
Drago
kaOz.Zeh
HSBen
jono416
KHANanaphone

------ ALA ------

Pack 1 pick 1:
Wild Nacatl
Outrider of Jhess
--> Magma Spray
Shadowfeed
Vithian Stinger
Esper Sojourners
Armillary Sphere
Pestilent Kathari
Might of Alara
Kathari Bomber
Puppet Conjurer
Lorescale Coatl
Woolly Thoctar
Cunning Lethemancer
Swamp

pretty strong pack, with thoctar, nacatl, stinger, coatl and sphere. i opt for the removal though

Pack 1 pick 2:
--> Agony Warp
Resounding Roar
Constricting Tendrils (FOIL)
Sighted-Caste Sorcerer
Arsenal Thresher
Volcanic Submersion
Valeron Outlander
Rupture Spire
Infectious Horror
Veinfire Borderpost
Dragonsoul Knight
Fleshformer
Font of Mythos
Plains

fleshformer is pretty good if you can muster 5c, but agony warp is better i think

Pack 1 pick 3:
Windwright Mage
--> Bloodpyre Elemental
Captured Sunlight
Bant Sojourners
Resounding Silence
Esper Cormorants
Bone Saw
Wretched Banquet
Winged Coatl
Stormcaller's Boon
Jhessian Balmgiver
Qasali Ambusher
Swamp

best card, goes with my p1p1

Pack 1 pick 4:
Outrider of Jhess
Shadowfeed
Esper Sojourners
Darklit Gargoyle
Salvage Slasher
Jund Hackblade
Putrid Leech
Skeletonize
Corrupted Roots
--> Blood Cultist
Gather Specimens
Forest

skeletonize is good but i've already got two removal spells. i think cultist is the better card.

Pack 1 pick 5:
Incurable Ogre
Brainbite
Naturalize
Akrasan Squire
Paragon of the Amesha (FOIL)
Bant Sureblade
--> Sedraxis Alchemist
Tukatongue Thallid
Vectis Dominator
Ardent Plea
Plains

man-o-war, looking to go grixis

Pack 1 pick 6:
Firewild Borderpost
Jungle Weaver
--> Goblin Deathraiders
Obelisk of Jund
Etherium Abomination
Suicidal Charge
Rotting Rats
Scarland Thrinax
Skyclaw Thrash
Plains

yup

Pack 1 pick 7:
Resounding Wave
Soul's Might
--> Lightning Talons
Constricting Tendrils
Magefire Wings
Sigiled Behemoth
Etherium Astrolabe
Shard Convergence
Plains

the only playable in my colors

Pack 1 pick 8:
Excommunicate
Cylian Elf
Cathartic Adept
Obelisk of Esper
Unsummon
--> Soul Manipulation
Hellkite Hatchling
Mountain

good card

Pack 1 pick 9:
Outrider of Jhess
Shadowfeed
Esper Sojourners
--> Pestilent Kathari
Might of Alara
Cunning Lethemancer
Swamp

meh

Pack 1 pick 10:
Constricting Tendrils (FOIL)
Arsenal Thresher
Volcanic Submersion
Infectious Horror
--> Font of Mythos
Plains

ok, i'll raredraft this now

Pack 1 pick 11:
--> Captured Sunlight
Winged Coatl
Stormcaller's Boon
Jhessian Balmgiver
Swamp

don't want this played against me

Pack 1 pick 12:
--> Esper Sojourners
Salvage Slasher
Corrupted Roots
Forest

Pack 1 pick 13:
--> Incurable Ogre
Vectis Dominator
Plains

yay, playable

Pack 1 pick 14:
--> Rotting Rats
Plains

Pack 1 pick 15:
--> Plains

------ CON ------

Pack 2 pick 1:
Excommunicate
Cylian Elf
Cathartic Adept
Obelisk of Esper
Deadshot Minotaur
Deft Duelist
Nacatl Savage
Canyon Minotaur
Soul Manipulation
Wildfield Borderpost
Sunseed Nurturer
--> Hellspark Elemental
Etherwrought Page
Sages of the Anima
Island

mehhhhhhh

Pack 2 pick 2:
Onyx Goblet
Marble Chalice
Cerodon Yearling
--> Tidehollow Strix
Druid of the Anima
Traumatic Visions
Asha's Favor
Sedraxis Alchemist
Qasali Pridemage
Rotting Rats (FOIL)
Gloryscale Viashino
Metallurgeon
Cylian Sunsinger
Forest

close call over the alchemist, i think the strix is better though

Pack 2 pick 3:
Steward of Valeron
Guardians of Akrasa
Etherium Sculptor
Viashino Skeleton
Breath of Malfegor
Nacatl Outlander
Quenchable Fire
Suicidal Charge
Vectis Dominator
--> Scavenger Drake
Kathari Remnant
Rockcaster Platoon
Island

this guy is also good

Pack 2 pick 4:
Guardians of Akrasa
Etherium Sculptor
Viashino Skeleton
Breath of Malfegor
Scattershot Archer
Parasitic Strix
Violent Outburst
Leonin Armorguard
--> Ancient Ziggurat
Tainted Sigil
Bant Battlemage
Mountain

hard pick for me. i really wanted the strix.

Pack 2 pick 5:
Outrider of Jhess
Shadowfeed
Esper Sojourners
Worldly Counsel
Aven Squire
--> Armillary Sphere
Naya Hushblade
Sphinx's Herald (FOIL)
View from Above
Demon's Herald
Island

should be good on fixing now

Pack 2 pick 6:
Outrider of Jhess
Shadowfeed
Esper Sojourners
Wandering Goblins
Nacatl Outlander
Grizzled Leotau
--> Kathari Bomber
Corrupted Roots
Sangrite Surge
Forest

nice

Pack 2 pick 7:
--> Esper Panorama
Skeletal Kathari
Lush Growth
Yoked Plowbeast
Cancel
Scattershot Archer
Godtracker of Jund
Sacellum Godspeaker
Forest

ok fine one more fixer

Pack 2 pick 8:
Coma Veil
--> Dragon Fodder
Savage Hunger
Court Homunculus
Salvage Slasher
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
Sanity Gnawers
Forest

this deck would be good with some devour guys

Pack 2 pick 9:
Excommunicate
Cathartic Adept
Obelisk of Esper
Nacatl Savage
--> Canyon Minotaur
Etherwrought Page
Island

never sad to see this guy wheel to me

Pack 2 pick 10:
--> Onyx Goblet
Marble Chalice
Cerodon Yearling
Asha's Favor
Rotting Rats (FOIL)
Forest

could be played

Pack 2 pick 11:
Viashino Skeleton
--> Breath of Malfegor
Quenchable Fire
Vectis Dominator
Island

same here

Pack 2 pick 12:
--> Etherium Sculptor
Viashino Skeleton
Tainted Sigil
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 13:
Shadowfeed
--> Demon's Herald
Island

Pack 2 pick 14:
Shadowfeed
--> Forest

Pack 2 pick 15:
--> Forest

------ ALA ------

Pack 3 pick 1:
Angelsong
Spell Snip
--> Resounding Thunder
Naya Panorama
Waveskimmer Aven
Dreg Reaver
Bone Saw
Sedraxis Alchemist
Mistvein Borderpost
Glassdust Hulk
Dragon's Herald
Vagrant Plowbeasts
Drastic Revelation
Predatory Advantage
Mountain

obv

Pack 3 pick 2:
Resounding Scream
Oblivion Ring
Kederekt Creeper
Colossal Might
Godtoucher
Beacon Behemoth
Kranioceros
Faerie Mechanist
Grizzled Leotau
--> Igneous Pouncer
Thopter Foundry
Behemoth's Herald
Lich Lord of Unx
Mountain

lich lord is pretty mana-intensive. i'm not going to be very heavy blue either

Pack 3 pick 3:
Fieldmist Borderpost
Banewasp Affliction
Steelclad Serpent
Vectis Silencers
Aven Trailblazer
Mana Cylix
Wretched Banquet
Valley Rannet
Manaforce Mace
Vithian Renegades
Flurry of Wings
--> Bloodhall Ooze
Island

could be good

Pack 3 pick 4:
Deathgreeter
Obelisk of Bant
--> Kathari Screecher
Goblin Mountaineer
Ember Weaver
Maniacal Rage
Singe-Mind Ogre
Magefire Wings
Countersquall
Naya Charm
Punish Ignorance
Plains

over the ogre

Pack 3 pick 5:
Obelisk of Grixis
Jhessian Lookout
Dregscape Zombie
Gustrider Exuberant
Vectis Agents
--> Dark Temper
Violent Outburst
Sewn-Eye Drake
Aerie Mystics
Fleshbag Marauder
Plains

!! i wish i could take like half this pack. zombie, drake, marauder

Pack 3 pick 6:
--> Mosstodon
Shore Snapper
Hindering Light
Ethercaste Knight
Wild Nacatl
Exploding Borders
Wandering Goblins
Nacatl Outlander
Valley Rannet
Island

hatedraft

Pack 3 pick 7:
Shore Snapper
Hindering Light
Ethercaste Knight
Worldly Counsel
Grizzled Leotau
Mage Slayer
Protomatter Powder
--> Where Ancients Tread
Plains

meh, i probably won't play this

Pack 3 pick 8:
--> Goblin Deathraiders
Obelisk of Jund
Etherium Abomination
Inkwell Leviathan (FOIL)
Kaleidostone
Infectious Horror
Gluttonous Slime
Plains

i was tempted by the inkwell leviathan

Pack 3 pick 9:
Angelsong
Spell Snip
--> Dreg Reaver
Bone Saw
Dragon's Herald
Drastic Revelation
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 10:
Resounding Scream
Godtoucher
--> Beacon Behemoth
Kranioceros
Behemoth's Herald
Mountain

wow that's late, maybe i should have been naya

Pack 3 pick 11:
Banewasp Affliction
--> Steelclad Serpent
Vectis Silencers
Mana Cylix
Island

Pack 3 pick 12:
--> Goblin Mountaineer
Maniacal Rage
Magefire Wings
Plains

Pack 3 pick 13:
Jhessian Lookout
--> Gustrider Exuberant
Plains

Pack 3 pick 14:
Shore Snapper
--> Island

Pack 3 pick 15:
--> Plains


here's the deck:

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Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:53 pm
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Post Re: 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
A pinger would RUIN you.

Also, all removal is good against this deck. Hope it works out.


Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:00 pm
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Post Re: 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
P1P4 Cultist isn't really wrong but I'd go with skeletonize, could go either way.
P1P6 Deathraiders is not that good, I'd take the skyclaw thrash.
P2P1 Hellspark is unplayable but I play as many soul manipulations as I can get.
P2P4 Zig is not playable, strix is the correct pick.
P3P2 I'd take lichlord, he's a bomb will win the game un-answered.

Thats what I saw from looking through the top 8 draft, gj on the top 8.

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Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:14 am
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Post Re: 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
mastaflash wrote:
P1P4 Cultist isn't really wrong but I'd go with skeletonize, could go either way.
P1P6 Deathraiders is not that good, I'd take the skyclaw thrash.
P2P1 Hellspark is unplayable but I play as many soul manipulations as I can get.
P2P4 Zig is not playable, strix is the correct pick.
P3P2 I'd take lichlord, he's a bomb will win the game un-answered.

Thats what I saw from looking through the top 8 draft, gj on the top 8.


p1p6 i agree in hindsight, i was trying to stay out of heavy blue at the time
p2p1, p2p4, you really think both are unplayable? curious to hear what others think
p3p2 if you look at the color support for blue in my deck to this point, it's not really there to pick him. but yes, if i had gone blue-ier with my earlier picks he becomes a much more attractive option.

appreciate the feedback as always. i scrubbed out in first round of t8 to a dude with a very impressive jund deck. i came very close to winning game 2, but i drew 5 consecutive lands in the midgame and he ripped apocalypse hydra off the top to pretty much wreck me.


Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:49 am
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Post Re: 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
IMO zig is playable in decks with heavier mana commitments where there is little focus and you are just happy to be able to play a guy. For your deck I would just about prefer it to aways be any land.

Hellspark I'm pretty much always happy when my opponent runs it out. Typically they waste 2 turns beating me for 6 while I get board presence. Yes, it can be a difference maker at times, but I seldom see it being a solid contributor to most decks.


Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:07 am
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Post Re: 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
I have never maindecked Hellspark Elemental in a draft.

I maindecked Ancient Zigg in my first ever CCC draft and decided to never do that again either...so I am of the opinion that both are unplayable unless you are in very speficic archetypes.


Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:20 am
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Post Re: 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
Skeletonize is MUCH better then blood cultist its not remotely close.

Hellspark elemental is not good at all. Its often a dead draw and best case it still kills itself. Soul manipulation is definitely the pick.

Anchient zig is only playable in a 5 color special with powerful creatures and few spells. You have 8 non-creature spells and a panorama in your deck. As such I wouldn't remotely consider it for your deck and its definitely unplayable if your deck isn't 5 colors with HEAVY creatures and no resounding spells you ever hope to cycle.

Skyclaw Thrash over Death Raiders is a no brainer.

I also really hate bloodhall ooze to start with running it in a deck without green and black . As it can only grow by 1 counter and best case it will be turn 3 before its even a 2/2.

Also back in draft 1 taking a card P1P1 that is basically strictly Naya and P1P2 taking a 2 drop that U/B your really not going to run both in the same deck so its not keeping your options open. Take the Rhox Meditant and leave your option for either bant or Naya open.

Also in the first draft you take steward over Druid of the anima and only mention the Guardians of Akrasa. I think the druid is actually significantly better if your intending to go naya.


Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:52 pm
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Post Re: 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
skeletonize is indeed better then blood cultist.
hell spark is not very good except maybe if you are straight BR with 30 points of reach and multiple 2 drops(maybe g/r with 6-8 2 drops , hells thunder, blitz hellion, and 2-4 c. mights.
Soul manipulation is much more powerful.

Skyclaw over deathraiders.

I don't like ancient zig very much. It doesn't belong in most decks and because of that it should be a fairly late pick. I just realized i never see it going around late. It turned out alright in your deck though, so you made it work i suppose.

Overall I you did a nice job keeping the 2nd deck to mostly RB, which should enable you to play your early drops early. I think your deck lacks power though.


Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:18 am
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Post Re: 1/24/2010 64-man release draft and top 8 draft
yup thanks for the feedback all, i struggle with the alara format(s) so much more than i did with SSE prior or ZEN since.

the only comment i disagree with is cliffrunner behemoth being strictly naya. compare him to wild leotau... behemoth will be fine in any deck that runs green, and gets additionally nuts in a naya deck that can reliably power him up t4. i agree that i should have taken the meditant p1p2 though.


Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:33 am
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