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roaroftheoden
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:43 pm Posts: 30
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 justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Event #: 908924 Time: 1/26/2010 11:33:36 PM Players: NedtheFish Stampizi solebush1 25aZn JustMeBaby jarlsleutels Darth Lotus __CK1 ------ ALA ------ Pack 1 pick 1: Resounding Scream Oblivion Ring Kederekt Creeper Colossal Might Godtoucher Executioner's Capsule Sedraxis Alchemist Tukatongue Thallid Gorger Wurm Naya Hushblade Topan Ascetic Scornful Æther-Lich Blood Cultist --> Broodmate Dragon Forest Pack 1 pick 2: Resounding Scream Kederekt Creeper Colossal Might Godtoucher --> Executioner's Capsule Mana Cylix Yoke of the Damned Matca Rioters Gorger Wurm Fatestitcher Spore Burst Bant Charm Retaliator Griffin Plains Pack 1 pick 3: Bone Splinters Cloudheath Drake Elvish Visionary Windwright Mage Kranioceros Traumatic Visions Asha's Favor --> Veinfire Borderpost Reborn Hope Dreadwing Cumber Stone Vicious Shadows Mountain Pack 1 pick 4: Soul's Fire Bant Panorama Rakeclaw Gargantuan Undead Leotau Gift of the Gargantuan Angelsong Exploding Borders Wandering Goblins --> Infest Dragonsoul Knight Fleshformer Island Pack 1 pick 5: Relic of Progenitus Bone Splinters Cloudheath Drake Elvish Visionary Windwright Mage Rhox Meditant Rotting Rats --> Mistvein Borderpost Sanctum Plowbeast Dauntless Escort Mountain Pack 1 pick 6: Brainbite Naturalize --> Viscera Dragger Bant Sureblade Coma Veil Darklit Gargoyle Vedalken Ghoul Anathemancer Thunder-Thrash Elder Plains Pack 1 pick 7: Bloodthorn Taunter Obelisk of Bant Kathari Screecher Goblin Mountaineer Jhessian Zombies (FOIL) --> Pestilent Kathari Winged Coatl Unstable Frontier Forest Pack 1 pick 8: Spell Snip --> Naya Panorama Dreg Reaver Toxic Iguanar Worldly Counsel Mind Funeral Mighty Emergence Plains Pack 1 pick 9: Resounding Scream --> Kederekt Creeper Godtoucher Tukatongue Thallid Naya Hushblade Scornful Æther-Lich Forest Pack 1 pick 10: Resounding Scream --> Kederekt Creeper Godtoucher Mana Cylix Spore Burst Plains Pack 1 pick 11: --> Kranioceros Asha's Favor Reborn Hope Vicious Shadows Mountain Pack 1 pick 12: --> Undead Leotau Gift of the Gargantuan Wandering Goblins Island Pack 1 pick 13: --> Relic of Progenitus Rotting Rats Mountain Pack 1 pick 14: --> Coma Veil Plains Pack 1 pick 15: --> Forest ------ ARB ------ Pack 2 pick 1: Resounding Roar --> Deny Reality Sighted-Caste Sorcerer Arsenal Thresher Volcanic Submersion Sylvan Bounty Fiery Fall Pale Recluse (FOIL) Sigil of the Nayan Gods Putrid Leech View from Above Zealous Persecution Demon's Herald Skullmulcher Swamp Pack 2 pick 2: Blister Beetle Frontline Sage (FOIL) Hissing Iguanar Carrion Thrash Court Archers Rip-Clan Crasher Valiant Guard Kaleidostone --> Drag Down Rhox Brute Illusory Demon Scourge Devil Ad Nauseam Swamp Pack 2 pick 3: Firewild Borderpost Jungle Weaver Goblin Deathraiders Obelisk of Jund Etherium Abomination Ember Weaver Maniacal Rage Sewn-Eye Drake Offering to Asha --> Infest Dragonsoul Knight Fleshformer Island Pack 2 pick 4: Spell Snip --> Naya Panorama Dreg Reaver Incurable Ogre Exploding Borders Wandering Goblins Sigil of the Nayan Gods Volcanic Submersion (FOIL) Jhessian Balmgiver Thopter Foundry Behemoth's Herald Mountain Pack 2 pick 5: Onyx Goblet Marble Chalice Cerodon Yearling Tidehollow Strix Druid of the Anima Vectis Agents --> Dark Temper Winged Coatl Ignite Disorder Salvage Titan Mountain Pack 2 pick 6: Excommunicate Cylian Elf Cathartic Adept Obelisk of Esper Deft Duelist Beacon Behemoth --> Jund Sojourners Skyward Eye Prophets Marrow Chomper Plains Pack 2 pick 7: Obelisk of Grixis Jhessian Lookout Dregscape Zombie Gustrider Exuberant Bone Saw --> Wretched Banquet Mask of Riddles Prince of Thralls Mountain Pack 2 pick 8: Shore Snapper Architects of Will Might of Alara Grixis Sojourners Winged Coatl --> Kathari Remnant Rockcaster Platoon Swamp Pack 2 pick 9: Sighted-Caste Sorcerer --> Arsenal Thresher Volcanic Submersion Sigil of the Nayan Gods View from Above Demon's Herald Swamp Pack 2 pick 10: Frontline Sage (FOIL) Carrion Thrash Valiant Guard --> Scourge Devil Ad Nauseam Swamp Pack 2 pick 11: Etherium Abomination Maniacal Rage Offering to Asha --> Fleshformer Island Pack 2 pick 12: --> Spell Snip Jhessian Balmgiver Behemoth's Herald Mountain Pack 2 pick 13: --> Onyx Goblet Marble Chalice Mountain Pack 2 pick 14: --> Cathartic Adept Plains Pack 2 pick 15: --> Mountain ------ CON ------ Pack 3 pick 1: Steward of Valeron Guardians of Akrasa Etherium Sculptor Viashino Skeleton Breath of Malfegor Agony Warp Constricting Tendrils Suicidal Charge Rotting Rats Grixis Sojourners Unbender Tine Exuberant Firestoker Sludge Strider --> Banefire Island Pack 3 pick 2: Esper Panorama Skeletal Kathari Lush Growth Yoked Plowbeast Cancel Soul's Fire Tukatongue Thallid Valeron Outlander Frontline Sage Drastic Revelation Sphinx's Herald Paragon of the Amesha --> Nemesis of Reason Plains Pack 3 pick 3: Excommunicate Cylian Elf Cathartic Adept Obelisk of Esper Deadshot Minotaur Deft Duelist --> Rupture Spire Yoke of the Damned Sigiled Behemoth Voices from the Void Nulltread Gargantuan Kederekt Parasite Mountain Pack 3 pick 4: Jungle Weaver Goblin Deathraiders Obelisk of Jund Etherium Abomination Blister Beetle Maniacal Rage Gorger Wurm Sigiled Behemoth Angelic Benediction Sacellum Archers --> Grixis Charm Forest Pack 3 pick 5: Brainbite Naturalize Bant Sureblade Armillary Sphere Salvage Slasher Nacatl Savage --> Soul Manipulation Sigil of the Nayan Gods Messenger Falcons Grixis Battlemage Mountain Pack 3 pick 6: Obelisk of Grixis Jhessian Lookout Gustrider Exuberant Grixis Illusionist Rhox Meditant Jhessian Zombies Sanity Gnawers Jhessian Infiltrator --> Sphinx Sovereign Forest Pack 3 pick 7: --> Courier's Capsule Onyx Goblet Marble Chalice Cerodon Yearling Aerie Mystics (FOIL) Vectis Agents Angelic Benediction Memory Erosion Forest Pack 3 pick 8: Glaze Fiend Soul's Might Lightning Talons Scattershot Archer Grizzled Leotau Angel's Herald --> Fusion Elemental Plains Pack 3 pick 9: Etherium Sculptor Viashino Skeleton Constricting Tendrils --> Suicidal Charge Rotting Rats Unbender Tine Island Pack 3 pick 10: Yoked Plowbeast --> Cancel Tukatongue Thallid Frontline Sage Drastic Revelation Plains Pack 3 pick 11: Excommunicate Cathartic Adept Sigiled Behemoth --> Nulltread Gargantuan Mountain Pack 3 pick 12: --> Etherium Abomination Maniacal Rage Sigiled Behemoth Forest Pack 3 pick 13: Salvage Slasher --> Sigil of the Nayan Gods Mountain Pack 3 pick 14: --> Gustrider Exuberant Forest Pack 3 pick 15: --> Forest
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mastaflash
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:41 am Posts: 233
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 Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Only pick I don't really like is deny reality over fiery fall, I think I'd take the fall every time.
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:40 pm |
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zombietech69
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:20 am Posts: 312
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 Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
i disagree with both of you skullmulcher is 100 percent the pick there you have broodmate and you dont have much that says go blue so i think taking the mulcher would have been best
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:43 pm |
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mastaflash
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:41 am Posts: 233
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 Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
No good devour targets, I'd just take the fall.
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:27 pm |
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roaroftheoden
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:43 pm Posts: 30
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 Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
That is a tough pack i suppose and for me it goes beyond that specific pick. Heads up I agree fieryfall is better but if I take that it pushes me towards a BR base for the fall to be at its best. I'd strongly prefer to be base UB splashing red. I ended up only playing 1mountain 1forest 1plains in my final build which i will post when the server goes up. This is basically foresight as I just have a plan and am familiar with which archetypes are most successful for me and really deny reality is not that far off in power level.
Skullmulcher would be a strange pick as 1. It works with nothing i have and is a card that is only valuable when you have token generators 2. It is green. At this point I'm playing black as a main color which doesn't pair with green (BU or BR).
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:29 pm |
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DDBen
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:37 pm Posts: 64
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 Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
I have to say I'd take the fiery fall even if I intended red as a splash. Its 6 mana so its not like I'm worried about having red all that early anyway. I don't think your very likely to cycle it in your deck but I like to maximize my bomb removal options.
P2P7 I think I'd really have to consider Mask of Riddles as I don't really think you need the Wretched Banquet. Though you do have a fairly low creature count with a few guys that if you've cast them you likely already won so its possible its also not really needed.
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:48 pm |
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mellamopobrede
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:02 pm Posts: 492 Location: Columbus, OH
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 Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Good deck. Agreed with fiery fall over deny reality. Deny reality is really only your first UB card. I know you like the UB base mana, but even so fiery fall can end up being removal in the end. I think the fall leaves you more open.
P3P5: Why did you take soul manipulation over armillary sphere? At this point you have 2 naya panoramas (which only fix for RG) and 2 borderposts. I dont think that is good enough for 4 color (which is what you were at that point).
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:52 pm |
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jedlen
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:33 am Posts: 62
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 Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
and spire...
I was shocked by the deny reality pick.
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:23 pm |
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mellamopobrede
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:02 pm Posts: 492 Location: Columbus, OH
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 Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Yeah, forgot about the spire. Even so id still take sphere.
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:41 pm |
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justmebaby
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:40 pm Posts: 48 Location: Pittsburgh PA CMU grad school
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 Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Yeah i'm not sure about that pick still, maybe I was getting to fancy trying to get into B/U. My mana base was pretty mediocre. shock my be a little intense considering they are fairly close in power level (unless you don't think that is true?). I think the fall is the right pick though.
I was kind of worried about killing people when i was in pack 3 as my deck was so defensive I was going to have to win off of my bombs alone. I thought about that pick for a long time and talked myself into taking soul manipulation as it functions as an excellent defensive card and can more importantly regrow my 2 win conditions. I ended getting passed a late sphinx which made me really regret taking the manipulation as I just had 2 panoramas, spire, and some borderposts. I think taking manipulation was reasonable at that point but yeah that is a debatable 1 too.
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