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Post justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Event #: 908924
Time: 1/26/2010 11:33:36 PM
Players:
NedtheFish
Stampizi
solebush1
25aZn
JustMeBaby
jarlsleutels
Darth Lotus
__CK1

------ ALA ------

Pack 1 pick 1:
Resounding Scream
Oblivion Ring
Kederekt Creeper
Colossal Might
Godtoucher
Executioner's Capsule
Sedraxis Alchemist
Tukatongue Thallid
Gorger Wurm
Naya Hushblade
Topan Ascetic
Scornful Æther-Lich
Blood Cultist
--> Broodmate Dragon
Forest

Pack 1 pick 2:
Resounding Scream
Kederekt Creeper
Colossal Might
Godtoucher
--> Executioner's Capsule
Mana Cylix
Yoke of the Damned
Matca Rioters
Gorger Wurm
Fatestitcher
Spore Burst
Bant Charm
Retaliator Griffin
Plains

Pack 1 pick 3:
Bone Splinters
Cloudheath Drake
Elvish Visionary
Windwright Mage
Kranioceros
Traumatic Visions
Asha's Favor
--> Veinfire Borderpost
Reborn Hope
Dreadwing
Cumber Stone
Vicious Shadows
Mountain

Pack 1 pick 4:
Soul's Fire
Bant Panorama
Rakeclaw Gargantuan
Undead Leotau
Gift of the Gargantuan
Angelsong
Exploding Borders
Wandering Goblins
--> Infest
Dragonsoul Knight
Fleshformer
Island

Pack 1 pick 5:
Relic of Progenitus
Bone Splinters
Cloudheath Drake
Elvish Visionary
Windwright Mage
Rhox Meditant
Rotting Rats
--> Mistvein Borderpost
Sanctum Plowbeast
Dauntless Escort
Mountain

Pack 1 pick 6:
Brainbite
Naturalize
--> Viscera Dragger
Bant Sureblade
Coma Veil
Darklit Gargoyle
Vedalken Ghoul
Anathemancer
Thunder-Thrash Elder
Plains

Pack 1 pick 7:
Bloodthorn Taunter
Obelisk of Bant
Kathari Screecher
Goblin Mountaineer
Jhessian Zombies (FOIL)
--> Pestilent Kathari
Winged Coatl
Unstable Frontier
Forest

Pack 1 pick 8:
Spell Snip
--> Naya Panorama
Dreg Reaver
Toxic Iguanar
Worldly Counsel
Mind Funeral
Mighty Emergence
Plains

Pack 1 pick 9:
Resounding Scream
--> Kederekt Creeper
Godtoucher
Tukatongue Thallid
Naya Hushblade
Scornful Æther-Lich
Forest

Pack 1 pick 10:
Resounding Scream
--> Kederekt Creeper
Godtoucher
Mana Cylix
Spore Burst
Plains

Pack 1 pick 11:
--> Kranioceros
Asha's Favor
Reborn Hope
Vicious Shadows
Mountain

Pack 1 pick 12:
--> Undead Leotau
Gift of the Gargantuan
Wandering Goblins
Island

Pack 1 pick 13:
--> Relic of Progenitus
Rotting Rats
Mountain

Pack 1 pick 14:
--> Coma Veil
Plains

Pack 1 pick 15:
--> Forest

------ ARB ------

Pack 2 pick 1:
Resounding Roar
--> Deny Reality
Sighted-Caste Sorcerer
Arsenal Thresher
Volcanic Submersion
Sylvan Bounty
Fiery Fall
Pale Recluse (FOIL)
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
Putrid Leech
View from Above
Zealous Persecution
Demon's Herald
Skullmulcher
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 2:
Blister Beetle
Frontline Sage (FOIL)
Hissing Iguanar
Carrion Thrash
Court Archers
Rip-Clan Crasher
Valiant Guard
Kaleidostone
--> Drag Down
Rhox Brute
Illusory Demon
Scourge Devil
Ad Nauseam
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 3:
Firewild Borderpost
Jungle Weaver
Goblin Deathraiders
Obelisk of Jund
Etherium Abomination
Ember Weaver
Maniacal Rage
Sewn-Eye Drake
Offering to Asha
--> Infest
Dragonsoul Knight
Fleshformer
Island

Pack 2 pick 4:
Spell Snip
--> Naya Panorama
Dreg Reaver
Incurable Ogre
Exploding Borders
Wandering Goblins
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
Volcanic Submersion (FOIL)
Jhessian Balmgiver
Thopter Foundry
Behemoth's Herald
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 5:
Onyx Goblet
Marble Chalice
Cerodon Yearling
Tidehollow Strix
Druid of the Anima
Vectis Agents
--> Dark Temper
Winged Coatl
Ignite Disorder
Salvage Titan
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 6:
Excommunicate
Cylian Elf
Cathartic Adept
Obelisk of Esper
Deft Duelist
Beacon Behemoth
--> Jund Sojourners
Skyward Eye Prophets
Marrow Chomper
Plains

Pack 2 pick 7:
Obelisk of Grixis
Jhessian Lookout
Dregscape Zombie
Gustrider Exuberant
Bone Saw
--> Wretched Banquet
Mask of Riddles
Prince of Thralls
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 8:
Shore Snapper
Architects of Will
Might of Alara
Grixis Sojourners
Winged Coatl
--> Kathari Remnant
Rockcaster Platoon
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 9:
Sighted-Caste Sorcerer
--> Arsenal Thresher
Volcanic Submersion
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
View from Above
Demon's Herald
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 10:
Frontline Sage (FOIL)
Carrion Thrash
Valiant Guard
--> Scourge Devil
Ad Nauseam
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 11:
Etherium Abomination
Maniacal Rage
Offering to Asha
--> Fleshformer
Island

Pack 2 pick 12:
--> Spell Snip
Jhessian Balmgiver
Behemoth's Herald
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 13:
--> Onyx Goblet
Marble Chalice
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 14:
--> Cathartic Adept
Plains

Pack 2 pick 15:
--> Mountain

------ CON ------

Pack 3 pick 1:
Steward of Valeron
Guardians of Akrasa
Etherium Sculptor
Viashino Skeleton
Breath of Malfegor
Agony Warp
Constricting Tendrils
Suicidal Charge
Rotting Rats
Grixis Sojourners
Unbender Tine
Exuberant Firestoker
Sludge Strider
--> Banefire
Island

Pack 3 pick 2:
Esper Panorama
Skeletal Kathari
Lush Growth
Yoked Plowbeast
Cancel
Soul's Fire
Tukatongue Thallid
Valeron Outlander
Frontline Sage
Drastic Revelation
Sphinx's Herald
Paragon of the Amesha
--> Nemesis of Reason
Plains

Pack 3 pick 3:
Excommunicate
Cylian Elf
Cathartic Adept
Obelisk of Esper
Deadshot Minotaur
Deft Duelist
--> Rupture Spire
Yoke of the Damned
Sigiled Behemoth
Voices from the Void
Nulltread Gargantuan
Kederekt Parasite
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 4:
Jungle Weaver
Goblin Deathraiders
Obelisk of Jund
Etherium Abomination
Blister Beetle
Maniacal Rage
Gorger Wurm
Sigiled Behemoth
Angelic Benediction
Sacellum Archers
--> Grixis Charm
Forest

Pack 3 pick 5:
Brainbite
Naturalize
Bant Sureblade
Armillary Sphere
Salvage Slasher
Nacatl Savage
--> Soul Manipulation
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
Messenger Falcons
Grixis Battlemage
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 6:
Obelisk of Grixis
Jhessian Lookout
Gustrider Exuberant
Grixis Illusionist
Rhox Meditant
Jhessian Zombies
Sanity Gnawers
Jhessian Infiltrator
--> Sphinx Sovereign
Forest

Pack 3 pick 7:
--> Courier's Capsule
Onyx Goblet
Marble Chalice
Cerodon Yearling
Aerie Mystics (FOIL)
Vectis Agents
Angelic Benediction
Memory Erosion
Forest

Pack 3 pick 8:
Glaze Fiend
Soul's Might
Lightning Talons
Scattershot Archer
Grizzled Leotau
Angel's Herald
--> Fusion Elemental
Plains

Pack 3 pick 9:
Etherium Sculptor
Viashino Skeleton
Constricting Tendrils
--> Suicidal Charge
Rotting Rats
Unbender Tine
Island

Pack 3 pick 10:
Yoked Plowbeast
--> Cancel
Tukatongue Thallid
Frontline Sage
Drastic Revelation
Plains

Pack 3 pick 11:
Excommunicate
Cathartic Adept
Sigiled Behemoth
--> Nulltread Gargantuan
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 12:
--> Etherium Abomination
Maniacal Rage
Sigiled Behemoth
Forest

Pack 3 pick 13:
Salvage Slasher
--> Sigil of the Nayan Gods
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 14:
--> Gustrider Exuberant
Forest

Pack 3 pick 15:
--> Forest


Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:31 pm
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Post Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Only pick I don't really like is deny reality over fiery fall, I think I'd take the fall every time.

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Post Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
i disagree with both of you skullmulcher is 100 percent the pick there you have broodmate and you dont have much that says go blue so i think taking the mulcher would have been best


Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:43 pm
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Post Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
No good devour targets, I'd just take the fall.

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Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:27 pm
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Post Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
That is a tough pack i suppose and for me it goes beyond that specific pick. Heads up I agree fieryfall is better but if I take that it pushes me towards a BR base for the fall to be at its best. I'd strongly prefer to be base UB splashing red. I ended up only playing 1mountain 1forest 1plains in my final build which i will post when the server goes up. This is basically foresight as I just have a plan and am familiar with which archetypes are most successful for me and really deny reality is not that far off in power level.


Skullmulcher would be a strange pick as
1. It works with nothing i have and is a card that is only valuable when you have token generators
2. It is green. At this point I'm playing black as a main color which doesn't pair with green (BU or BR).


Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:29 pm
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Post Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
I have to say I'd take the fiery fall even if I intended red as a splash. Its 6 mana so its not like I'm worried about having red all that early anyway. I don't think your very likely to cycle it in your deck but I like to maximize my bomb removal options.

P2P7 I think I'd really have to consider Mask of Riddles as I don't really think you need the Wretched Banquet. Though you do have a fairly low creature count with a few guys that if you've cast them you likely already won so its possible its also not really needed.


Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:48 pm
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Post Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Good deck. Agreed with fiery fall over deny reality. Deny reality is really only your first UB card. I know you like the UB base mana, but even so fiery fall can end up being removal in the end. I think the fall leaves you more open.

P3P5: Why did you take soul manipulation over armillary sphere? At this point you have 2 naya panoramas (which only fix for RG) and 2 borderposts. I dont think that is good enough for 4 color (which is what you were at that point).


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Post Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
and spire...

I was shocked by the deny reality pick.


Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:23 pm
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Post Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Yeah, forgot about the spire. Even so id still take sphere.


Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:41 pm
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Post Re: justmebaby recent 4322 5color control
Yeah i'm not sure about that pick still, maybe I was getting to fancy trying to get into B/U. My mana base was pretty mediocre. shock my be a little intense considering they are fairly close in power level (unless you don't think that is true?). I think the fall is the right pick though.

I was kind of worried about killing people when i was in pack 3 as my deck was so defensive I was going to have to win off of my bombs alone. I thought about that pick for a long time and talked myself into taking soul manipulation as it functions as an excellent defensive card and can more importantly regrow my 2 win conditions. I ended getting passed a late sphinx which made me really regret taking the manipulation as I just had 2 panoramas, spire, and some borderposts. I think taking manipulation was reasonable at that point but yeah that is a debatable 1 too.


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