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roaroftheoden
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:43 pm Posts: 30
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 justmebaby recent 84 5color control
This 1 is a bit more difficult
Event #: 908690 Time: 1/26/2010 9:23:52 PM Players: Faceless Butcher Aceman022 JustMeBaby paulrall thenewt ssakke BooshikaBlast Replacement77 ------ ARB ------ Pack 1 pick 1: Gustrider Exuberant Firewild Borderpost Jungle Weaver Goblin Deathraiders Obelisk of Jund Etherium Abomination Rupture Spire Infectious Horror Vedalken Ghoul Pale Recluse --> Slave of Bolas Fleshbag Marauder Tidehollow Sculler Predatory Advantage Mountain Pack 1 pick 2: Esper Stormblade Steelclad Serpent Vectis Silencers Resounding Scream --> Oblivion Ring Kederekt Creeper (FOIL) Aven Trailblazer Mana Cylix Kathari Bomber Grixis Sojourners Scavenger Drake Kathari Remnant Naya Charm Plains Pack 1 pick 3: Vithian Stinger Esper Sojourners Excommunicate Cylian Elf Aven Squire --> Armillary Sphere Pestilent Kathari Naya Sojourners Stormcaller's Boon Fleshbag Marauder Naya Charm Time Sieve Plains Pack 1 pick 4: Volcanic Submersion Relic of Progenitus Bone Splinters Cloudheath Drake Elvish Visionary Vectis Agents Constricting Tendrils --> Veinfire Borderpost Jund Sojourners Cumber Stone Gloryscale Viashino Swamp Pack 1 pick 5: Blister Beetle Soul's Grace Carrion Thrash Court Archers Vectis Agents Worldly Counsel Esper Cormorants Igneous Pouncer --> Ignite Disorder Sangrite Surge Forest Pack 1 pick 6: Resounding Roar --> Deny Reality Sighted-Caste Sorcerer Valiant Guard Kaleidostone Violent Outburst Leonin Armorguard Reborn Hope Thoughtcutter Agent Forest Pack 1 pick 7: Lush Growth Yoked Plowbeast Cancel Unsummon --> Absorb Vis Vedalken Ghoul Manaforce Mace Minion Reflector Forest Pack 1 pick 8: Waveskimmer Aven Dreg Reaver Incurable Ogre Naturalize --> Valley Rannet Protomatter Powder Ethersworn Canonist Mountain Pack 1 pick 9: Gustrider Exuberant --> Firewild Borderpost Jungle Weaver Etherium Abomination Infectious Horror Vedalken Ghoul Mountain Pack 1 pick 10: Steelclad Serpent Vectis Silencers Resounding Scream --> Aven Trailblazer Mana Cylix Plains Pack 1 pick 11: Excommunicate Cylian Elf --> Naya Sojourners Stormcaller's Boon Plains Pack 1 pick 12: --> Volcanic Submersion Relic of Progenitus Constricting Tendrils Swamp Pack 1 pick 13: Soul's Grace --> Vectis Agents Forest Pack 1 pick 14: --> Valiant Guard Forest Pack 1 pick 15: --> Forest ------ ALA ------ Pack 2 pick 1: Obelisk of Esper Deadshot Minotaur Deft Duelist Esper Panorama Skeletal Kathari Darklit Gargoyle Armillary Sphere Salvage Slasher Stormcaller's Boon Trace of Abundance Angelic Benediction Sacellum Archers Anathemancer --> Knight-Captain of Eos Plains Pack 2 pick 2: Colossal Might Godtoucher Tortoise Formation Predator Dragon (FOIL) Aven Trailblazer Mana Cylix Wretched Banquet Soul Manipulation Wildfield Borderpost Scavenger Drake Kathari Remnant Bant Charm --> Finest Hour Mountain Pack 2 pick 3: --> Druid of the Anima Steward of Valeron Guardians of Akrasa Etherium Sculptor Viashino Skeleton Ember Weaver Toxic Iguanar Traumatic Visions Pale Recluse Kathari Bomber Unbender Tine Exuberant Firestoker Mountain Pack 2 pick 4: Kathari Bomber (FOIL) Onyx Goblet Marble Chalice Cerodon Yearling Rhox Meditant Zombie Outlander Vedalken Ghoul --> Marisi's Twinclaws Topan Ascetic Scornful Æther-Lich Cloven Casting Plains Pack 2 pick 5: Shadowfeed Esper Sojourners Excommunicate Cylian Elf Nacatl Outlander Darklit Gargoyle --> Jhessian Zombies Vectis Dominator Thopter Foundry Behemoth's Herald Swamp Pack 2 pick 6: Firewild Borderpost Jungle Weaver Obelisk of Jund Etherium Abomination Infectious Horror Sanctum Plowbeast Protomatter Powder Puppet Conjurer --> Lorescale Coatl Plains Pack 2 pick 7: Colossal Might Godtoucher Tortoise Formation Kranioceros --> Winged Coatl Rockcaster Platoon Skyward Eye Prophets Marrow Chomper Island Pack 2 pick 8: Akrasan Squire Coma Veil Dragon Fodder Mana Cylix Trace of Abundance Etherwrought Page --> Spore Burst Island Pack 2 pick 9: Obelisk of Esper --> Deft Duelist Salvage Slasher Stormcaller's Boon Trace of Abundance Anathemancer Plains Pack 2 pick 10: Godtoucher Tortoise Formation Mana Cylix Soul Manipulation --> Wildfield Borderpost Mountain Pack 2 pick 11: Etherium Sculptor Viashino Skeleton --> Pale Recluse Unbender Tine Mountain Pack 2 pick 12: Onyx Goblet Marble Chalice --> Vedalken Ghoul Plains Pack 2 pick 13: Shadowfeed --> Behemoth's Herald Swamp Pack 2 pick 14: --> Infectious Horror Plains Pack 2 pick 15: --> Godtoucher ------ CON ------ Pack 3 pick 1: Etherium Abomination Blister Beetle Soul's Grace Hissing Iguanar Nulltread Gargantuan (FOIL) Court Archers Vectis Agents Worldly Counsel Esper Cormorants Monstrous Carabid Thopter Foundry Behemoth's Herald Jund Charm --> Child of Alara Island Pack 3 pick 2: Bloodthorn Taunter Deathgreeter Obelisk of Bant Kathari Screecher Goblin Mountaineer Sylvan Bounty Faerie Mechanist --> Qasali Pridemage Singe-Mind Ogre Drumhunter Esperzoa Sanity Gnawers Salvage Titan Island Pack 3 pick 3: Resounding Wave Soul's Might Lightning Talons Jund Panorama Fieldmist Borderpost Banewasp Affliction Might of Alara --> Gorger Wurm Naya Hushblade Shield of the Righteous Corrupted Roots Madrush Cyclops Mountain Pack 3 pick 4: Druid of the Anima Steward of Valeron Guardians of Akrasa Etherium Sculptor Viashino Skeleton Bant Charm (FOIL) Ember Weaver Maniacal Rage Talon Trooper Corpse Connoisseur --> Tower Gargoyle Island Pack 3 pick 5: --> Crystallization Welkin Guide Call to Heel Demonic Dread Cavern Thoctar Ridge Rannet Rhox Meditant Rotting Rats Nacatl Outlander Magefire Wings Mountain Pack 3 pick 6: --> Knight of the Skyward Eye Obelisk of Naya Thorn-Thrash Viashino Mosstodon Shore Snapper Faerie Mechanist Valiant Guard Offering to Asha Controlled Instincts Forest Pack 3 pick 7: Onyx Goblet Marble Chalice Cerodon Yearling Bone Saw Vectis Dominator --> Wall of Denial View from Above Cradle of Vitality Swamp Pack 3 pick 8: Dregscape Zombie Gustrider Exuberant Firewild Borderpost Jungle Weaver Obelisk of Jund --> Wild Leotau Jund Sojourners Forest Pack 3 pick 9: Etherium Abomination Soul's Grace Vectis Agents Worldly Counsel --> Thopter Foundry Behemoth's Herald Island Pack 3 pick 10: Bloodthorn Taunter Deathgreeter Obelisk of Bant --> Sylvan Bounty Sanity Gnawers Island Pack 3 pick 11: Soul's Might --> Lightning Talons Banewasp Affliction Corrupted Roots Mountain Pack 3 pick 12: --> Etherium Sculptor Viashino Skeleton Maniacal Rage Island Pack 3 pick 13: Rotting Rats --> Magefire Wings Mountain Pack 3 pick 14: --> Controlled Instincts Forest Pack 3 pick 15: --> Swamp
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theeguy
Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:41 pm Posts: 162
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 Re: justmebaby recent 84 5color control
roaroftheoden wrote: This 1 is a bit more difficult Pack 1 pick 4: Volcanic Submersion Relic of Progenitus Bone Splinters Cloudheath Drake Elvish Visionary Vectis Agents Constricting Tendrils --> Veinfire Borderpost Jund Sojourners Cumber Stone Gloryscale Viashino Swamp No love for C-Stone? 
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christopherw
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:27 pm Posts: 110
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 Re: justmebaby recent 84 5color control
I think my first 4 picks in this draft would have been:
Slave of Bolas Esper Stormblade Vithian Stinger Cumber Stone
I tend to go into Grixis a lot, just because its such a strong shard. I dont relly like the o-ring as a second pick, as you lock yourself into Esper or 5 colour. Picking stormblade means you have UB so far, so you can go esper or Grixis (or 5 colour).
Imo those 4 picks look stronger together than Slave+O-ring+Armillary+Borderpost
and I think that given the cards you had picked 1-3, then cumberstone is probably better than Veinfire Borderpost anyway, seeing as you dont actually have a red commitment yet, as you would be looking to play esper in order to fit in both the o-ring and the slave of bolas.
Just my opinion, good draft though.
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:52 pm |
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darnold131
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:36 am Posts: 224
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 Re: justmebaby recent 84 5color control
christopherw wrote: I dont relly like the o-ring as a second pick, as you lock yourself into Esper or 5 colour. I honestly can't think of a situation where I would take Stormblade over O-ring. Your argument doesn't convince me and no one ever has to commit to an archtype by pick 2!
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:21 pm |
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christopherw
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:27 pm Posts: 110
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 Re: justmebaby recent 84 5color control
The reason im thinking like that, is because if you dont end up esper or 5-colour, then you have thrown away either the o-ring or the Slave.
Slave > o-ring by quite a bit. So rather than pick the o-ring as the strongest card, I would much rather pick a really strong card that complements my amazing first pick nicely.
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| Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:49 pm |
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moerutora
Joined: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:11 am Posts: 85
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 Re: justmebaby recent 84 5color control
I agree with the above post, however it isnt very hard to splash so if he ahppened to go into jund or grix he could easily add a plains with fixing. I would have picked Stormbade as it is very, very strong.
Side Note- Opened Nicol Bolas pack 2 yesterday and today opened him Pack 1 and went grixis splash for Hellkite Overlord/Lavalanche. Lost in the Finals of 84 =( Being Voiced of the Void + Obelisk = GG.
Funny, 1st time I played 18 lands in ALA which worked out really well with such land intensive cards in deck.
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mellamopobrede
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:02 pm Posts: 492 Location: Columbus, OH
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 Re: justmebaby recent 84 5color control
I think both plans are viable. I would also personally take the oring. Both slave and oring are very splashable. Yes slave of bolas is better than oring, but oring is still very powerful. That being said your strategy of staying open is also very viable. 3/2 fliers for 2 mana are still pretty amazing and the ability to stay open definitely should not be overlooked.
I cant agree with cumber stone though. Im actually one of those guys that likes cumber stone, but it's so hard to pass fixing over what can often times be a situational card. Imho of course.
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| Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:23 am |
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roaroftheoden
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:43 pm Posts: 30
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 Re: justmebaby recent 84 5color control
thanks for the comments. This was an interesting 1. My draft style dictates I take o-ring over esper s. as I prefer splashing powerful cards anyway. Stormblade is pretty insane though, so I can't really fault you for wanting to take it. It certainly takes you in a more aggro direction which you seem to like chris.
As far as cumberstone I don't really think it is playable. I'd rather have a card that interacts with the board directly. You only get so many cards in your hand and I don't think I can afford for 1 of them to be cumberstone. It can be pretty embarrassing in a lot of situations. It doesn't really fit in control decks or aggressive decks. I tend not to draft that many creatures which just makes it even worse.
This is kind of funny because the 2 highest limited ratings I have seen that use this forum are mine and chrisw. He wanted to 4th pick it and I think it is unplayable.
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| Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:54 am |
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ContraEgo
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 516
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 Re: justmebaby recent 84 5color control
You two probably differ because as you said, he seems to go in a more aggro direction. The cumberstone has never failed me personally when I was playing an aggro deck.
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| Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:42 am |
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